Since Trion is very keen to close and delete all threads that even remotely dare to expose or insult American guilds, I will make a post here and explain what’s going on.
Throughout the one and a half years since Rift was released there have been a number of game breaking exploits that some people used more then others. This is obviously mainly Trion’s fault for not foreseeing them, but the people that used them and didn’t report them are equally guilty.
When it comes to new raid bosses, sometimes stuff goes wrong during testing or patching or people just forget about things and some of the bosses can be exploited or “cheesed”. Depending on how much the exploit or cheese affects the fight, the devs can decide to change it or leave it as it is and accept defeat.
A prime example of accepting defeat is the fact that you can Rift Prison the Fire Elementals on Warboss Drak and not bother with DPS-ing them down or that you can suicide with the Burning Sacrifice and disable the soft enrage.
A recent example of an exploit that was just breaking the encounter and got fixed asap was the fact that you could reflect the damage from Dread Shot using the rogue barrier or the already famous Wrathful Flames. Apparently this exploit was working since forever and this is not the first time Trion forgets to make boss abilities impossible to reflect. If you think back, I’m sure Prince Hylas in Greenscale Blight will bring back some memories… and in case you can’t remember, you could reflect Fracture using Reflective Presence from Dominator, Glassy Reflection from Warden and so on.
I’m not dissing Trion, but since we are 5 years old or even younger we are told we have to learn from mistakes so we don’t repeat them. Just saying.
So what’s the exploit now ?
The exploit is latency. Trion completely forgot to factor in latency when they designed bosses and put their server side checks in place. We all seen it when Conquest first got introduced and everyone started to lag so 50% of the time you would keep your Conquest buffs after the game ended.
They somewhat fixed it now, but it can still happen if you make yourself lag enough at the end of a game. This opened the door to a lot more “brilliant ideas”. Apparently people began to stack every possible buff from every possible trinket, specc, weapon by making themselves lag while changing specc or swapping weapons.
If you want the proof to this you can download over 100 parses from No Quarter and check what buffs they have and which proccs… tanks with Sylvan Greatblade procc on and doing 600 HPS, rogues so overpowered that their auto attack does 11% of their entire damage, etc. The examples can go on forever, if you want to see it for yourself here are all the logs available for download: combat logs.
And buff stacking it’s not the only thing they did. Let’s not forget about the Synergy Crystals stacking and the double Powerstone as well. To make matters worse, no one in their guild had the ethics to go an report this bug to the devs and stress how important it is to be fixed. The entire guild abused this exploit since the start of Infernal Dawn. No offence, but that’s a long time, not sure why no one reported it.
QQ, but you exploited as well !
We did, but not in such stupid ways and our “exploiting” is completely different. First of all, no matter how good an exploit seems, we report it asap and to always stress the importance of having it fixed fast we provide screenshots, combat logs, videos and even demonstrate it to the devs, just to have it fixed.
When Inwar Darktide bugged like mad in Hammerknell, we had the recording of that kill sent to a dev asap along of the details of what happen and how it happen. But what did Maximation did when they found out about bugs on Grugonim and Inquisitor Garau ? Nothing. They used them and only admitted to them when someone made that QQ post about how bad Trion is. They even sold guides for Runeking Molinar in which they described how to exploit the Cursed Blows.
Another example is the Wrathful Flames. After the whole QQ about the exploit on Rusila Dreadblade they fixed her Dread Shot ability so that it can’t be reflected, but they forgot to inquire more about how was it even possible to reflect that much damage using an item that is supposed to be capped. So it was still possible to use the Wrathful Flames to reflect the Word of Incineration on Ituziel after he enraged. So we took the appropriated actions and followed up on the matter, sent to screenshots to prove our point and the next Hotfix added a hard cap on the damage that could be reflected, thus solving the Wrathful Flames drama forever.
We also knew about the 2 powerstone stacking but we never used it. We always stream our kills, our parses and breakdowns always get posted on the forum if someone asks for them, we don’t hide in a corner and pretend nothing is happening. Also we always try to execute fights as they were intended to be done and we try to find a way to do the mechanics properly and not come up with shitty cheeses. It might be me, but isn’t the point of progress to learn mechanics and defeat the boss by properly executing those mechanics, rather then having a rogue tank bugging every single one of them ? And on top of that also staking every single possible damage, healing and shield procc ?
Don’t you have any respect for the devs that bust their asses and work long hours to provide you with entertaining and all you do is try to find ways to ruin their fights ? I know for sure that if I was a dev and I would create a boss and try to make it fun and interesting and some random guild would just break everything I work so hard on and cheese it to death, I would be pissed. What you did right here was like taking a Rubix cube and smash it on the ground then assemble it back in the solved state and pretend you won.
I’m still waiting for a fair race.
I put my hopes in Storm Legion. I hope Trion will learn from their mistakes and we will get a better race in the expansion. Although it unlikely because of all new souls and souls combinations, there will probably be something to exploit, at least I hope they will be quick to act on it and also they will implement some punishment for exploiting/cheating. At the moment everything is allowed, no one gets banned for using the fishing scripts, no one gets a wrist slap if they are exploiting, everything is forgotten 2 days after being said on the forum and the people that dare to point any obvious exploit get banned on the forums.
Fix it, ban them, set an example. Grow some balls.
As for NQ, all I can say is GG guys, no one will take you serious again. I hope you get banned from testing at least, you don’t deserve to test if you are unable to report live bugs, how are you going to help out in Beta ? By storing up some exploits so you can use the at release ? Shameful.
Contribute and help improve Rift.
If you found or heard about an exploit or a bug that is being abused don’t think that there is nothing you can do about it. You can help expose it and have it fixed. The way to do it is to post it on the forum and make a fuss about it, make it known to everyone. Don’t use the Feedback / Bug reports feature in-game, no one listens to that thing. Just make sure it is on the forum and it is visible to a lot of people. Then they will have to fix it asap.
PS: Special thanks to Paul for the gallery image. He is by far the funniest guy on the forums
Update: Since some people are to patriotic, I’m just going to remove any attempt of being sarcastic. Here it is without any reference to your beloved US.